Author Topic: Trying to ID some '60s/early '70s Pop/Dramatic Jazz + Psyche Rock  (Read 130 times)

implvol

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I would love to ID these tracks, finally (links are to my Google Drive files).

Tracks 1-6 sound like they could be William Loose and/or Capitol Media.  The rock piece sounds like it's in the style of Electric Banana or Pete Phillips, but it's not on any of their library albums that I'm aware of.

The industrial jazz piece sounds very American in style to me, but I don't have anything concrete to pursue. 


pop/beat jazz #1
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1I-GdIGqB91wP4o9pVlBtM38_3ye6zTt1/view?usp=sharing


pop/beat jazz #2
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Kb0j0o4IGIx3Cvc60f3tmztV4MPUTdFo/view?usp=sharing


pop/beat jazz #3
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_T9tW_4Zr_OwsxONTOa9d9HOXhPNFzOo/view?usp=sharing


pop/beat jazz #4
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eLcfOKFNLc3QayvB17ZUeAOCAmZGVO6T/view?usp=sharing


pop/beat jazz #5
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1J28XsNcLjYin0ueUmdM2Xw0zuXi_Xv3U/view?usp=sharing


dramatic jazz
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aGjuowG65pj0WKHIFcoiOdRRScWIBMuz/view?usp=sharing


psychedelic rock
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XCz31JyaiLV0EJ15gjeWUUGKbu-_ZD-o/view?usp=sharing


industrial jazz
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nO1Uj0_n20WUFcFaF9ZoTF5IhSNi6CEX/view?usp=sharing



« Last Edit: October 12, 2020, 05:38:20 PM by implvol »

Craig-UK

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Re: Trying to ID some '60s/early '70s Pop/Dramatic Jazz + Psyche Rock
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2020, 04:28:17 PM »
Unfortunately the files that you have shared require requesting access, please post links which don't require requesting access

implvol

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Re: Trying to ID some '60s/early '70s Pop/Dramatic Jazz + Psyche Rock
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2020, 05:38:57 PM »
Thanks for the heads up Craig-UK, I hadn't realized I did that. They're all fixed now.

cesser000

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Re: Trying to ID some '60s/early '70s Pop/Dramatic Jazz + Psyche Rock
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2020, 09:24:12 PM »
The first 5 jazz/beat tracks are from William Loose and are all pieces he composed for NFL Films in the early 70's.  They have never been officially released publicly.

However...

I recently acquired a number of these tracks from a source who recorded them 20 years ago at NFL Films.  I am currently working on a long NFL video that will showcase all of these Loose tracks, along with other ones I acquired.  I will be releasing it on my Youtube channel probably within a couple weeks.

These are the official titles of those pieces, per that source:

Pop/Beat Jazz #1 - William Loose "Happy Brass"

Pop/Beat Jazz #2 - William Loose "Moving Patterns"

Pop/Beat Jazz #3 - William Loose - this one has no official title that I am aware of.  It is simply known by its NFL Films music ID # "NFL #291"

Pop/Beat Jazz #4 - William Loose "Snogs"

Pop/Beat Jazz #5 - that particular sample is very short, but I think it is also part of "Snogs"

Can I ask where you got those Pop/Beat Jazz samples from?


I can tell you that the last 3 samples are not Loose and are not from NFL Films.




implvol

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Re: Trying to ID some '60s/early '70s Pop/Dramatic Jazz + Psyche Rock
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2020, 11:03:50 PM »
Thanks a lot cesser000, that's really interesting. I didn't know that Bill Loose composed for NFL Films, but some of his "Beat" albums for Capitol have that same pop jazz sound so I assumed he was behind them. 

Those first 5 tracks were used in various weekly NHL highlights in 1973, and I simply edited out the narration in order to post them here (which is why they're so short).  All of the samples I posted are from various hockey films, but not all were NHL productions. The "industrial jazz" piece was used in the "Greatest Sports Legends" series of the late '70s.

The "dramatic jazz" piece may not be from NFL Films (I took it from a World Hockey Assoc. film from 1973), but it has that Bill Loose sound to it (to my ears) so maybe it was his composition released on another label.  One thing about those library composers is that their history as freelancers is almost as interesting as their music.

I've actually been looking for all of these tracks for a long time, so it would be a real treat to actually have the full pieces. Please let us know know when post them on your channel.

It's still really satisfying to finally ID them, so thanks again!

cesser000

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Re: Trying to ID some '60s/early '70s Pop/Dramatic Jazz + Psyche Rock
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2020, 01:46:38 AM »
And I didn't know that Loose's NFL music was used in NHL films.  I know that NFL Films used to produce sports shows for other sports.  Sounds like maybe they produced those NHL shows and utilized the Loose music.  Interesting.
« Last Edit: October 13, 2020, 09:45:45 PM by cesser000 »

B17-Bomber

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Re: Trying to ID some '60s/early '70s Pop/Dramatic Jazz + Psyche Rock
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2020, 04:46:20 PM »
The ones not identified in the above post sound very much like Capitol Hi-q stuff.  I blindly bought a bunch of Capitol Hi-Q stuff composed by Bill Loose in hopes of finding some of the stuff that appeared in NFL films, as Beat Documentary Hi Q L57/58 was used extensively.  Unfortunately, I yielded nothing other than Beat Documentary. 
The Hi Q stuff was later reformatted by Capitol in the Media Music series which are easier to find.