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Slothish

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Re: What makes you interested into Library Music?
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2020, 05:12:16 PM »
Great thread! I'll add my own experience of being seduced.

As Retronic has pointed out, there was plenty of library music usage here in the UK as I was growing up in the 70s and 80s. Also there was plenty on the radio; I was always exasperated to find that the best music they played seemed to be only for talking over by DJs. Add to that little bits and pieces from films, such as the transistor radio from the 60s film A Home of your Own which stuck with me. I had always wondered what that music was, thinking it was plain rock n' roll but never hearing it anywhere else. On a side note, the film is available on Dailymotion and is worth a watch for the music alone as it's a modern 'silent' film. The video quality is low but watchable.

Another link of something which affected me was on Harry Enfield's Television Programme 30(!) years ago; a skit called Deptford Draylons. I put that one on cassette tape and loved it. Now I know it as Alan Hawkshaw - Beat Boutique.

Then in the mid 90s, after hearing wierd and wonderful stuff on John Peel's Radio 1 show and not being able to buy it, I started making music on my Amiga to scratch my particular itch as the available music then was abysmal. This led to a search for things I could sample, including going round to my friend's house in 1999 or so (he had internet!) and downloading a lot of theme tunes from TVArk (I think). This increased the value of TV and production music further, but the real intro was when another friend lent me 'Ready Steady Boogaloo!' on CD which I absolutely loved. The hook was well and truly in!

Unfortunately I did not have the money or space to amass a large collection of original library vinyl and still don't, but it didn't stop me getting my claws on a fair few compilation CDs during my time working in Brighton and visiting the record shops there. Digital music files is where it stops for me just now. If it was all vinyl I wouldn't be able to get in the door!

After reading around on this forum for a while I'm awed by the knowledge and enthusiasm of members here, and I reaslise that I'm a library minnow in a pond of very big fish! Thanks for everything you're doing people!

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Re: What makes you interested into Library Music?
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2020, 12:04:52 PM »
When my country introduced a cartoon called SpongeBob in 2006, LMT has been rooted in my heart since then. Although I was only five years old at the time, some of the music here gave me a strong impact at the time. For listening to such music in a place with a very poor cultural atmosphere, it can be regarded as the opening and guiding role of my favorite music style. So now that everyone around me is listening to Chinese popular songs, I still retain my pursuit of true art that can truly be called music. One of them is LMT. My favorite LMT brand is Bruton Vinyl & Sonoton SCD. By the way, I also like the various music products released by SNK, their music is unparalleled.

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Re: What makes you interested into Library Music?
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2020, 07:24:09 PM »
I got interested because, like so many of you, I grew up watching a lot of cartoons. I remember one time, when I was a kid, I was really confused when I heard Spongebob music turn up in a Looney Tunes cartoon . I merely thought it had something to do with that "Turner dubbed version" thing I saw in a few episodes, and they just redubbed the cartoon entirely without Carl Stalling's music. It wasn't until a few years later that I learned (from Wikipedia ironically) that the scores were actually library cues from Capitol and EMI Photoplay that were simply still available when they reappeared on Spongebob. (The cartoon in question was 1958's "A Bird In A Bonnet", one of 6 Looney Tunes cartoons that used Capitol Hi-Q needledrops). That's what made me find out what production music actually was.

I began producing cartoons of my own around a decade ago, and after a few years, I decided to finally incorporate production music into my animated films, and coincidentally enough, I was obsessed with early Hanna Barbera cartoons at that time. So I dug through the Yowp blogspot and I eventually had an entire batch of Langlois, Capitol, Sam Fox, and EMI Photoplay cues in my archives.

I also learned a little more about the history of library music, and the ages of some of these tracks. I became even more interested when I found about the SOHO Archive (which Spongebob began to use by 2015). I did some extensive research (since the cues DEFINITELY sounded older, but I didn't know what the original source was).  I found out they came from Bosworth, the very first recorded music library, with recordings available on the archive dating as far back as 1937. With that information, I used cues from their catalogue like crazy, and I still do. I was also doing research on cues I heard in other old cartoons, such as "The New 3 Stooges", and "Dick Tracy", which I learned  were needledrops from the Emil Ascher catalogue. And I eventually came across Walk the Skies's two "Video Moods" uploads on YouTube. That specifically sparked my interest in Emil Ascher's library and Gordon Zahler's General Music Corp.

With more and more interest in vintage library cues and where they were used, it led me to this very forum, where a lot of the rarest stuff is frequently rediscovered. Collecting library music has become a second hobby for me, as I even own a rare Harmonic 78" disc from the late 1940's. (I will upload the tracks soon) And I hope to find more rare library recordings to edit into my films.
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Your Pal Doug

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Re: What makes you interested into Library Music?
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2020, 10:20:44 PM »
I'd love to see a cartoon with the classic Library I love as well.

Nice to meet you

Doug

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Re: What makes you interested into Library Music?
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2020, 10:49:22 PM »
Breaks and beats at first, but now i just love the music.  ;D

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Re: What makes you interested into Library Music?
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2020, 02:36:52 AM »
I'd love to see a cartoon with the classic Library I love as well.

Nice to meet you

Doug


Thank you Doug! Believe it or not, I did use an obscure library track (obviously not available on APM) that was previously heard in a vintage cartoon. (One of the aforementioned Video Moods tracks). It's called "Watch For The Manhole" and I brought it back in this film. https://youtu.be/NkhJE5InzrU around 40 seconds in

It was also used in a rare Rory Racoon cartoon called "Bye Bye Bad Bird"  (at 2:19)

I specifically used it, because I heard it in the Rory Racoon cartoon and I immediately recognized it.
https://youtu.be/m6AXsmgnV3s 
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Re: What makes you interested into Library Music?
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2020, 03:07:10 AM »
Creative work there, smazzini016. I enjoyed watching these. Welcome to LMT!
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Your Pal Doug

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Re: What makes you interested into Library Music?
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2020, 12:37:17 PM »
Funny Cartoon

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Re: What makes you interested into Library Music?
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2020, 09:29:22 PM »
Honestly, what initially got me interested in library was that it was a sort of 'meta' music - music intended to mimic "proper" music, without fully becoming it. I also find the subversive nature of 'actively' listening to music intended as 'background noise' inherently fascinating.

I think it sounds incredibly pretentious, but if you pressed me on it I'd probably identify myself as an "eclecticist". I've had very varied musical interests over the years, often developing voracious interests for and doing deep dives into specific genres for extended periods of time. Prior to picking up an insterest in library I had recently been on both binges of easy listening music and avant-garde classical music after 1950 - which aptly served as a prelude to library, honestly! A fleeting fascination with plunderphonics was probably helpful, too.
Once I started exploring, there were plenty of areas of interest; the quirky bleeps and bloops of early electronic music, the untiring rhytmicisms of industrial-themed soundtracks, the lovely, lush classical-meets-jazz compositions and chord progressions and the grooove, man. Perhaps most of all, the thing that had me hooked was Egisto Macchi, as well as other composers active in library that wrote works that didn't sound like they could be used for anything - which leads me to the why?, who?, how? and so on.
- Who are these mysterious composers listed on these generically-designed sleeves, how are they this good and why have I never heard about any of it before? Seriously, who's the bassist on this track? What is a "Jarrell" - or a a "tag"? How did any of this come about or sustain itself? Did Coldplay intentionally rip off Roger Roger? Is this porn music? How did Cabildo make that lead instrument sound? Is "Walt Rockman" real person? Why isn't this properly documented anywhere? How did Jacques Brel end up composing for KPM?

I feel like I'm beginning to get a bit of a grasp of things (heh), but there are still a lot of things I wonder about. Alongside the excellent music, the mystery of library music is endlessly appealing.

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Re: What makes you interested into Library Music?
« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2020, 03:16:16 AM »
... Why isn't this properly documented anywhere?

At this point in this long journey of ours, that's the million dollar question... 
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