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Mr

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Cetra Commenti Musicali
« on: February 03, 2018, 05:28:19 AM »

Italian label under Cetra/Fonit-Cetra, seemingly preceding the series of releases under Fonit, Usignolo, Goldfinger, etc.

As far as I can tell, nobody has yet endeavoured any attempt at listing the chronology of these releases, most likely due to their obscurity and unavailability. As the records only have a single digit as their catalogue number, they are usually listed also with the matrix numbers listed on their labels. For reference, I have added these in brackets below the entries.

Based on what I have found, these releases seem to be separated into different series, with differently coloured labels. Several numbers are repeated, confusingly. I have grouped the following by colour and then combined some colours with similar titles.

Yellow:
1 - Gialli - Franco Tamponi/F.B. Fabor (Fabio Borgazzi)/Sandro Brugnolini/Franco Salina/Leopoldo Perez-Bonsignore/Salve D'Esposito (runout: 30-12-65)
(MLC. 4937/MLC. 4938)
2 - Gialli - Leopoldo Perez Bonsignore/Kandar (Angelo Giacomazzi)/Abner Rossi/Enrico Colonnese/Raffaele Gervasio/Gianni Wilhelm/Umberto Rotondi
(MLC. 6488/MLC. 6489)


Red/Pink:
1 -
2 - Ballabili - F.B. Fabor (Fabio Borgazzi) (runout: 2-5-66)
(MLC. 4931/2/MLC. 4932/2)
3 -
4 - Ballabili - William Assandri/Mario Molino/Enrico Colonnese/Michele Lacerenza/Mario Migliardi (runout: 7-12-66)
(MLC. 5458/MLC. 5459)
5 -
6 - Ballabili vari - Fabio Fabor (Fabio Borgazzi)
(MLC. 6505/MLC. 6506)
7 -
8 -
9 -
10 -
11 -
12 -
13 - Ballabili vari - William Assandri
(MLC. 7074/MLC 7075)

1 - Stacchi sigle e finali - Mario Migliardi/Vidulesku (Mario Migliardi) (runout: 6-9-66)
(MLC. 5098/MLC. 5099)

1 -
2 - Antichi - Franco Tamponi/Leopoldo Gamberini/Enrico Colonnese/Giuseppe Gagliano/Italo Cammarota (runout: 1-7-66)
(MLC. 5178/MLC. 5179)


Light red/orange:
1 -
2 - Folclore - Giancarlo Chiaramello/Enrico Colonnese/Mario Migliardi/Giuseppe Gagliano/Salve D'Esposito/Franco Salina/William Assandri (runout: 9-12-66)
(MLC. 5462/MLC. 5463)


Blue:
1 -
2 - Romantici - Enrico Colonnese/Salve D'Esposito/Franco Salina/Franco Tamponi/Giannetto Wilhelm (runout: 6-9-65)
(MLC. 4781/MLC. 4782)
3 - Romantici - Enrico Colonnese/Sandro Brugnolini/Salve D'Esposito/Leopoldo Perez-Bonsignore/Mario Migliardi/Franco Tamponi (runout: 27-8-66)
(MLC. 5340/MLC. 5341)
4 - Romantici - Mario Migliardi/Illuminato Culotta/Raffele Gervasio/Abner Rossi/Mario Bottini/Giuliano Pomeranz/William Assandri/Gian Piero Reveberi
(MLC. 6484/MLC. 6485)

1 - Panoramici - Franco Tamponi/Leopoldo Perez-Bonsignore/Simvay (Licinio Assandri)/William Assandri
(MLC. 5072/MLC. 5073)
2 - Panoramici - Giuseppe Gagliano/Enrico Colonnese/Franco Salina/Salve D'Esposito/Licinio Assandri/Franco Tamponi/Mario Migliardi (runout: 19-9-66)
(MLC. 5321/MLC. 5322)

Light Blue:
1 - Infanzia - Angelo Giacomazzi/Franco Tamponi/Giuseppe Gagliano/Salve D'Esposito/Enrico Colonnese (runout: 19-9-66)
(MLC. 5323/MLC. 5324)
2 - Infanzia - Enrico Colonnese/William Assandri/Salve D'Esposito/Elio Liguori/Raffaele Gervasio/Gianni Wilhelm/Elrocho (Mario Bottini)
(MLC. 6258/MLC. 6259)

Purple:
1 - Jazz - Franco Mojoli/Rossi Abner/Glauco Masetti/Others
(MLC. 4331/MLC. 4332)
2 - Jazz: Soft jazz di G. Wilhelm/Jazz - Vermilio Almangano/Giannetto Wilhelm/Rossi Abner/Angelo Giacomazzi/Franco Tamponi/Antonio Simonetti/Sandro Brugnolini (runout: 30-10-65)
(MLC. 4837/MLC. 4838)
3 - Jazz: Saul-Jazz/Jazz - Francesco Santucci/Sandro Brugnolini/Enzo Scoppa/Glauco Masetti/Mario Migliardi/Franco Mojoli
(MLC. 5317/MLC. 5318)
4 - Jazz - Franco Tonani (Francesco Cagnasso)
(MLC. 5547/MLC. 5548)
5 - Jazz - Basso-Valdambrini, music by Oscar Valdambrini/Attilio Donadio/Domboga (Arturo Casadei) (runout: 29-3-67)
(MLC. 5549/MLC. 5550)
6 - Jazz - Mario Migliardi/Piero Umiliani (runout: 30-3-67)
(MLC. 5553/MLC. 5554)
7 - Jazz - Vittorio Nadalin
(MLC. 6264/MLC. 6265[/i])

Green/Dark Green:
1 -
2 - Caratteristici - F.B. Fabor (Fabio Borgazzi)/Franco Tamponi/William Assandri/Enrico Colonnese
(MLC. 4939/MLC. 4940)
2 - Polche - Mazurche - Quadriglie - Licinio Assandri/Michele Lacerenza/Umberto Tucci/Franco Scarica/Salve D'Esposito/Mario Molino (runout: 19-9-66)
(MLC. 5325/MLC. 5326)
3 - Caratteristici - Mario Migliardi/Enrico Colonnese/Angelo Giacomazzi/Giuseppe Gagliano/Franco Tamponi (runout: 16-9-66)
(MLC. 5315/MLC. 5316)
4 - Caratteristici - Enrico Colonnese/Salve D'Esposito
(MLC. 5460/MLC. 5461)
5 -
6 - Caratteristici - Vittorio Nadalin/Virgilio Buzzacchi/Francesco Saverio Mangieri/Franco Velani (Virgilio Fucile)/Altogrande (Luigi Astore)/Mario Carrara/Alterno (Fiorenzo Marchionni)/Abner Rossi/Fiorenzo Marchionni/Oiramsol (Mario Carrara)/Franco Scarica/Gaetano Romano/Concar (Mario Consiglio)/Mario Consiglio
(MLC. 7072/MLC. 7073)

Brown:
1 -
2 -
3 - Descrittivi - Gumilev (Salvatore Cirulli)/Altogrande (Luigi Astore)/Enrico Colonnese/Franco Scarica/Gaetano Romano/Mario Carrara/Alterno (Fiorenzo Marchionni)/Abner Rossi/Oiramsol (Mario Carrara)/Fiorenzo Marchionni
(MLC. 7070/MLC. 7071)

White:
1 - Cosmo electron - Teo Usuelli (runout: 10.7.64) (UNCONFIRMED))
(MLC. 4240/MLC. 4241)
1 - Magico - Fantastici - Abissali - Raffele Gervasio/Mario Migliardi (runout: 6-12-66)
(MLC. 5456/MLC. 5457)

Black:
1 -
2 -
3 -
4 -
5 - Antichi e arcaici - Gian Paolo Chiti/Sergio Montori (1973)
(M 9800/M 9801)


Unknown:
? - Di maniera - Armando Renzi, music by Raffaele Gervasio
(MLC. 4779/MLC. 4780)

? - Religiosi - Raffele Gervasio/Giuseppe Gagliano/Enrico Colonnese/Paolo Renosto/Vittorio Nadalin/Leopoldo Perez Bonsignore
(MLC. 6490/MLC. 6491)
« Last Edit: April 09, 2020, 11:14:11 AM by Mr »

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Re: Cetra Commenti Musicali
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2019, 10:16:37 AM »
so hard to find out about these records but i have spotted one on ebay recently which means that there is a second one in the light blue series. it's incredible what still shows up...in 2019(!). hell yeah!

2 - Infanzia - Enrico Colonnese/William Assandri/Salve D'Esposito/Elio Liguori/Raffaele Gervasio/Gianni Wilhelm/Mario Bottini (as Elrocho)
(MLC. 6258/MLC. 6259)

(borrowed these pictures from the actual auction)






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Re: Cetra Commenti Musicali
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2019, 01:26:25 PM »
Nice find! Hopefully more pop up as we go.

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Re: Cetra Commenti Musicali
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2020, 09:26:46 AM »
incredible! another yellow label appeared on discogs.

2 - Gialli - Leopoldo Perez-Bonsignore/Kandar (Angelo Giacomazzi)/Rossi Abner/Enrico Colonnese/Raffaele Gervasio/Giannetto Wilhelm/Umberto Rotondi
(MLC. 6488/MLC. 6489)

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Re: Cetra Commenti Musicali
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2020, 07:53:48 PM »
Nice catch! List updated.

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Re: Cetra Commenti Musicali
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2020, 06:46:42 PM »
good work
just let you know that I thought the same and I've updated discogs Cetra Commenti Musicali label by introducing series based on tag: "<theme> - <color> Label".

You can update first post with vol 2 Jazz:

2. Giannetto Wilhelm, Various - Jazz (MLC. 4837, MLC. 4838)

just one comment: Jazz series is pink label, not purple, but I own only this 2nd volume :)

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Re: Cetra Commenti Musicali
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2020, 07:25:27 PM »
Nice find, thanks for sharing!
Since you have the record; in the runout of the vinyl, next to the label, there should be a stamped date. What does it say?

This looks to be the same as Ember Mood Music Library ERL 3349 "Ideas Unlimited".
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Re: Cetra Commenti Musicali
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2020, 09:17:55 AM »
Nice find, thanks for sharing!
Since you have the record; in the runout of the vinyl, next to the label, there should be a stamped date. What does it say?

30.10.65, updated in discogs release too

This looks to be the same as Ember Mood Music Library ERL 3349 "Ideas Unlimited".

yep I found that release has exactly same list of tracks on french press and I've linked on discogs db
Weird thing is that "Ideas Unlimited" is credited to Howard Robert Orchestra whilst G. Wilhelm is only credited as author to few tracks on A side, no idea ;)

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Re: Cetra Commenti Musicali
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2020, 11:32:18 AM »
Wonderful, thank you!
If you don't mind me asking, where did you stumble upon this LP? Did you find it yourself somewhere?

I wouldn't take the "Howard Robert" credit too seriously, it seems they used "Howard Robert" as a generic performing name for Ember's releases. As per always, details about the actual recording sessions are non-existent, but I think it's more likely the Cetra release was recorded in Italy than by the "Howard Robert Orchestra" in the UK/Germany. It sounds similar to other early Italian jazz recordings of the time to my ears, anyway. I'd guess this was probably recorded at RAI, considering the Cetra/Fonit-Cetra tie - though this ultimately remains speculation.

A curiosity; Angelo Giacomazzi and Antonio Simonetti's names both appear here, and copyright paperworks reveals an unlisted co-writing credit by Eugenio Calzia, the same trio of composers who were behind Costanza Records' first LP CO 10001, which I'd guess was recorded around the same time. This presumably featured a different ensemble headed by Matteo Treppiedi ("Harry Bendler"), however.

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Re: Cetra Commenti Musicali
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2020, 12:01:18 PM »
If you don't mind me asking, where did you stumble upon this LP? Did you find it yourself somewhere?

It was the summer of 2002 and that year I decided not to go on vacation on my uncle's yacht, because I had to take the Cryptology exam in September.
I always have an eye around the rubbish bins, and that morning my eye fell on a Todis supermarket plastic bag: inside I found this album, sealed Alessandroni's "Open Air Parade" and few VHS horror movies from the 80s.
Every night I dream on it ;)

I wouldn't take the "Howard Robert" credit too seriously, it seems they used "Howard Robert" as a generic performing name for Ember's releases.

agree

A curiosity ...

cool


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Re: Cetra Commenti Musicali
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2020, 01:28:40 PM »
Jee, I just can't believe you found a Cetra Commenti Musicali and Open Air Parade (!!!) in a rubbish bin. It's insane, unbelievable, awesome! Gongrats edotetsuo.
G.

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Re: Cetra Commenti Musicali
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2020, 01:33:03 PM »
Haha wow, that's quite a story!