Library Music Themes

General Sharing & Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: le_tomval on September 04, 2018, 07:28:15 AM

Title: Except vinyl and CDs, what to collect?
Post by: le_tomval on September 04, 2018, 07:28:15 AM
The question is simple. Everywhere I read only about vinyl and CDs (I think it's 99,99% of everyone collection), but what about others stuff ? Somebody said "catalogues" and tapes, but never seen any of them, does anybody have more informations ?
Title: Re: Except vinyl and CDs, what to collect?
Post by: Upgrade on September 04, 2018, 09:53:50 PM
I have a couple of library music 78s from KPM (some are still called the KP Library) and Brulll-Harmonic, though most are also made of vinyl rather than the traditional shellac.

Depending on your definition of library music, I also have 16 inch radio transcription discs which recorded mainstream artists for standard programming library blocks. CP MacGregor did put out some early shellac 78s as well.

I’d be interested to know if any library music companies put out 8 tracks, though I’m sure there are cassettes.

There was a recent ebay listing for a Capitol Hi-Q reel to reel tape, though the lack of branded packaging suggests that it’s a generic duplicate.

ebay.com/itm/CAPITOL-RECORDS-HI-Q-SERIES-L-144-REEL-TO-REEL-TAPE-15-I-P-S-LIBRARY-MUSIC-/302853462996
Title: Re: Except vinyl and CDs, what to collect?
Post by: le_tomval on September 05, 2018, 12:02:17 PM
Thanks for your message.
Title: Re: Except vinyl and CDs, what to collect?
Post by: Mr on September 05, 2018, 10:16:38 PM
Catalogues don't show up too often, unfortunately. I've seen a few Capitol Hi-"Q" reels pop up on occasion, though. 78s are very plentiful, I have about a literal half a ton. You may also find some old library software on some of the pre-internet CD releases.

What to collect, other than that? Whatever you feel like, really. Many of us collect digital files, too, for instance - heh. And knowledge!
Personally, I try to collect various pieces of library memorabilia - wherever they may show up. I have a few pieces of Italian sheet music from C.A.M. and Ariete, two cue sheets from the BBC archives, an old Italian composer catalogue, pamphlets from Cinedelic's reissue of the Ayna Records LPs - and a surely Jean-Pierre Decerf and Bernard Fèvre-approved miniKorg-700 ;)
I some library LPs were accompanied by letters addressed to the people who ordered them, or with general info about upcoming releases and such. These are cool little artifacts one can try to collect, too.
Title: Re: Except vinyl and CDs, what to collect?
Post by: le_tomval on September 06, 2018, 11:56:31 AM
Yes, that's right ! I wanted to talk about memorabilia !
If you have pictures of that, it would be a pleasure to see them.
Title: Re: Except vinyl and CDs, what to collect?
Post by: Mr on April 01, 2019, 10:52:57 PM
I recently picked up an old Kemp's Film & Television Year Book, an in-industry sort of directory for film and TV production-related services - you know, for those times you need a seamstress, helicopter pilot or pyro technician for your TV movie.
There are a few production music libraries listed in the book, and the rear cover features a neat little KPM ad urging you to literally phone up Robin Phillips himself!
(https://i.imgur.com/VGiDo7h.png)(https://i.imgur.com/sh4UO9q.png)
Title: Re: Except vinyl and CDs, what to collect?
Post by: Your Pal Doug on April 02, 2019, 08:36:05 PM
I recently picked up an old Kemp's Film & Television Year Book....the rear cover features a neat little KPM ad urging you to literally phone up Robin Phillips himself!

That's really cool!
Title: Re: Except vinyl and CDs, what to collect?
Post by: digdeeper on April 18, 2019, 07:08:53 PM
There are a few production music libraries listed in the book, and the rear cover features a neat little KPM ad urging you to literally phone up Robin Phillips himself!

Did you try to call him?
Title: Re: Except vinyl and CDs, what to collect?
Post by: Mr on December 02, 2019, 05:03:12 PM
Lord Thames - I finally found those two SROTY-related documents from the BBC library packaged with my Bruton LPs:
(https://i.imgur.com/2CCYLIh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/eTBPvQE.jpg)
Title: Re: Except vinyl and CDs, what to collect?
Post by: stackjackson on December 02, 2019, 07:57:24 PM
Both very cool, Mr. Can you take a photo or two of the inside of that book...? Is there a table of contents?
Title: Re: Except vinyl and CDs, what to collect?
Post by: Mr on December 02, 2019, 08:55:10 PM
Sure thing! Index and a few pages from the music section follows below:
(https://i.imgur.com/qQLscZi.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/QVZxek2.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/OFUjaJe.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lGGbYqD.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/y7zajda.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/GalAZTv.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/C44sMqT.jpg])
Title: Re: Except vinyl and CDs, what to collect?
Post by: stackjackson on December 03, 2019, 03:57:32 AM
Thanks for these extra pics, Mr! What a cool book.
Did you pick this up online, or did you chance upon it in some old store?
Title: Re: Except vinyl and CDs, what to collect?
Post by: le_tomval on December 03, 2019, 09:50:52 AM
Your book looks awesome and very unique !
Title: Re: Except vinyl and CDs, what to collect?
Post by: Mr on February 17, 2020, 05:36:52 PM
Thanks for these extra pics, Mr! What a cool book.
Did you pick this up online, or did you chance upon it in some old store?
Thanks! Found this online - but of course already knew what I was buying ;)


Just a thought - does anyone have an overview of which library music catalogues (books, pamphlets, etc.) exist?
For those fortunate few of you who have some, which are they?

I'm positive more must exist, but a partial bibliography follows below:
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UK:
Boosey & Hawkes Recorded Music: Complete Catalogue 1952
(https://i.imgur.com/SpJM1FN.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/rc2fLK7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZThMrB4.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/Mlrrap5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bq1sU9s.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/Yvgsiw4.jpg)
(paperback, 32 p., 1952)


Supplement No. 1 to Complete Catalogue, Edition 1961
(https://i.imgur.com/mocrrfm.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/W7tY6JF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CjXdq47.jpg)
(leaf?, 1961)


The Boosey & Hawkes Eight-Way Card Index of Recorded Music
(https://i.imgur.com/w9xq6Wd.png)(https://i.imgur.com/kj8Qn0N.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FcazTUV.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/kCeHm2g.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FzX4T6g.jpg)
(paperback, date unknown)


Bruton Music
(https://i.imgur.com/bSrMtdX.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/BsjoZrp.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/AImgjS3.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/FatCQv7.jpg)
(paperback, c. 1987)


Bruton Music
(https://i.imgur.com/87r78IW.png)(https://i.imgur.com/LTq5rGM.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/fxnNJrE.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/NclEORx.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/IRSzepc.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/CWWRBpZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/GOyt6Mx.jpg)
(binder, date unknown)
(thanks to facebook page "Bruton Music Vinyl" for most of these photos.)


Chappell Recorded Music Library
(https://i.imgur.com/eQozrhV.png)
(paperback?, 90 p., 1957)


Chappell Records: A Library of Incidental and Background Music additional supplement to main catalogue
(https://i.imgur.com/9LRUgyZ.png)
(pamphlet, 28 p., 1964)


Chappell Index Series
(https://i.imgur.com/M20r82o.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/eJjgbjT.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/I96gZnk.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/te92RDV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/UE4ZGwl.jpg)
(paperback, c. 50 p., date unknown)


Chappell Recorded Music
(https://i.imgur.com/KSv1WtC.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/52XDZ5A.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tpbYFtc.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/oQvL80J.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IZulmZ0.jpg)
(binder, c. 200 p., date unknown)


Harmonic Mood Music Library / C. Brull Ltd. (title unknown)
(https://i.imgur.com/xKGFB6U.jpg)
(paperback, date unknown)


KPM Music Recorded Library
(https://i.imgur.com/enWG5Hi.png)(https://i.imgur.com/8tYfvIR.png)(https://i.imgur.com/5XMV1JM.jpg)
(bound, 126 p., c. 1969?)


Music-De Wolfe Recorded Music Catalogue
(https://i.imgur.com/nq2G2pd.png)(https://i.imgur.com/yAfk3Mp.jpg)
(binder, c. 500 p., 1981)


De Wolfe Music Catalogue: De Wolfe Music 1988
(https://i.imgur.com/qqnfNEL.jpg)
(paperback?, 1988)


Studio G Mood Music Guide
(https://i.imgur.com/senJYLq.png)(https://i.imgur.com/eQQ5r8j.png)
(paperback, 1983)


Themes Catalogue
(https://i.imgur.com/9Mvt0A6.png)(https://i.imgur.com/C969LVl.png)(https://i.imgur.com/E4fySC7.png)
(paperback, 46 p., c. 1982)



France:
MP 2000, Montparnasse 2000 Production Music Library:
(https://i.imgur.com/P4wEnNk.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/EIuvQTV.jpg)



Germany:
Coloursound Library
(https://i.imgur.com/yrVS5Y2.png)
(paperback, date unknown)


Selected Sound Recorded Music Library Catalogue
(https://i.imgur.com/YDr4KhV.png)

(paperback, 88 p., date unknown)

Selected Sound Recorded Music Library Musikarchiv Catalogue No. 2
(https://i.imgur.com/fz5wEdk.png)(https://i.imgur.com/mzcvrQg.jpg)
(paperback?, 83 p., date uknown)


Sonoton
(https://i.imgur.com/VRJFqfv.png)
(date unknown, presumably issued together with SON 000 sampler LP.)


ITALY:
(https://i.imgur.com/IyZefc6.png)
Beat Records Company Edizioni Musicali, catalogo discografico di musiche per sonorizzazioni (Background Music Library)
(Paperback, September 30th, 1971)



(https://i.imgur.com/9ZyXQ9b.png)
Gemelli, catalogo generale numerico
(Paperback, January 1973)


(https://i.imgur.com/HXqvlNA.jpg)
Vedette Records, musiche per sonorizzazioni e programmi (catalogo generale)
(Paperback, 34 p., 1967)



US:
The CBS Records EZ Cue Library: EZ Cue-EZT Catalog
(paperback?, c. 151 p., date unknown)

I seem to recall having seen the following in the past as well:
Capitol Hi-"Q" catalog
Conroy Recorded Music Library catalogue
Mozart Edition (Great Britain) Ltd. catalogue
Parry Music Library catalogue
Southern Library of Recorded Music catalogue (binder?)
Title: Re: Except vinyl and CDs, what to collect?
Post by: stackjackson on February 18, 2020, 04:11:33 AM
Thanks for these great teasers, Mr! I'd love to find one of these catalogues. That Chappell looks especially cool.

I just wish the folks who owned these rare items were also able to SCAN the books properly. These poor camera shots don't do much for preservation or reference...
I scan books all the time, top quality, hi-res. But unfortunately, I've never gotten a hold of one of these library catalogues :(
Title: Re: Except vinyl and CDs, what to collect?
Post by: neowave on February 18, 2020, 01:23:02 PM
Especially important are the release dates of the records, a lot of albums without a release date, including Media Music The Professional, GM and many other labels
Title: Re: Except vinyl and CDs, what to collect?
Post by: apmnut on February 21, 2020, 01:30:47 AM
Since Mr. brought up Southern, here's my copy of one of their catalogues:
https://mega.nz/#!LepBgIJa!y8L6iGXpi5vIhUhimGE2tIrimhSXIDU4Kb66ruBYX0g

Not my scan. I believe our pal Doug scanned this, so kudos to him!
Title: Re: Except vinyl and CDs, what to collect?
Post by: stackjackson on February 21, 2020, 02:54:09 AM
Very cool. Thanks apmnut! This appears to come from the A-PDF.com site, but if it's Doug's scan, then thank you Doug!
Title: Re: Except vinyl and CDs, what to collect?
Post by: neowave on February 21, 2020, 12:03:14 PM
Since Mr. brought up Southern, here's my copy of one of their catalogues:
https://mega.nz/#!LepBgIJa!y8L6iGXpi5vIhUhimGE2tIrimhSXIDU4Kb66ruBYX0g

Not my scan. I believe our pal Doug scanned this, so kudos to him!

I create Excel version of Southern Catalogue (1965)
https://mega.nz/#!Q5gjgBjS!GUe4P5k3vLrlG-vzCs4B06yMaJ8fpjre6sPp7KYqy4k
Title: Re: Except vinyl and CDs, what to collect?
Post by: Mr on February 22, 2020, 10:52:08 AM
Apropos; I have located the first Italian library catalogue I've seen to date, and it's currently on its way in the mail. I'll keep you posted! :)

I just wish the folks who owned these rare items were also able to SCAN the books properly. These poor camera shots don't do much for preservation or reference...
I scan books all the time, top quality, hi-res. But unfortunately, I've never gotten a hold of one of these library catalogues :(
Very much agree with you here. I think most people collect these as rare, cool little memorabilia, with little intention of archiving them - though they're undoubtedly important historical documents for our 'niche'.
Title: Re: Except vinyl and CDs, what to collect?
Post by: Mr on March 21, 2020, 06:42:16 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/HXqvlNA.jpg)
I probably have to decontaminate it (heh), but this little gem showed up in the mail a few days back! Of all places, this copy seems to originate from Como, right by the Italian-Swiss border.
Title: Re: Except vinyl and CDs, what to collect?
Post by: Mr on April 09, 2020, 11:07:49 AM
On the subject of books and catalogues:

A lot of library composers - particularly of the early, orchestral tradition - were also academics. It makes a lot of sense, as you'd generally attend a music academy or conservatory to become a composer back in the day, taking studies in composition, musical direction, etc. As a 'consequence' of this, some of these composers also became authors, writing about music theory, composition or other related subjects.
If you google around a bit, you'll find that, in particular, King Palmer has a wide bibliography, authoring a few "How to"-books on composition and orchestration, as well as books about Bach, Beethoven and so on. A partial bibliography of his follows below:
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King Palmer:
Bach (1935)
Granville Bantock (1947)
Teach Yourself to Compose Music (1947)
Beethoven (1948)
Teach Yourself Orchestration (1964)
The ABC of Music (1968)
The Piano (1972)
Orchestration (1973)
Compose Music (1974)
Music (1981)

King Palmer, Stephen Rhys:
The ABC of Church Music (1967)

King Palmer, Cossar Turfery:
The Musical Production: A Complete Guide for Amateurs (1953)
Similar books can be found authored by Reg Owen, "The Reg Owen Arranging Method" (1956) and Henry Baynton-Power "How to Compose Music" (1937).

In addition to this, there are a few autobiographies to be found:
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Stelvio Cipriani, Pino Ammendola, Rosario M. Montesanti:
Stelvio Cipriani - Anonimo romano (2016)

John Fox:
My Musical World (2009)

Alan Hawkshaw:
The Champ: The Hawk Talks (2011)

Ennio Morricone:
Life Notes (2016)

Steve Race:
Musician at Large (1979)
This is by no means a conclusive list, mind - I'm sure there are more.
Adrian Kerridge's "Tape's Rolling: Take One" (2016) also deserves mention, of course.

A few more books about library music, or written by or about composers working extensively or tangentially in library:
Quote

Mike Carey:
Sailing By (2000) (a biography of Ronald Binge)

C.P. Lee, Andy Willis:
The Lost World Of Cliff Twemlow: The King of Manchester Exploitation Movies (2009)

Enzo Masetti:
La musica nel film (1950)

Jack Mirtle:
The Music of Billy May (1998)

Ennio Morricone, Sergio Miceli:
Composing for the Cinema (2013)

Valerio Mattioli:
Superonda: Storia segreta della musica italiana (2016)

Samuela Totti:
La libreria musicale privata di Antonino Riccardo Luciani (2014)

Apropos academic writing, I've been doing a deep dive into the life of David H. Kimball ("Peymont") as of late. For an individual seemingly so obscure, I've actually found quite a lot of details about him and his life, detailed in old journals and books. I found out he did some writing as well.
Recently picked this up, (look towards the bottom):
(https://i.imgur.com/RBN3ADu.png)

- bet you didn't know about that! :)
Title: Re: Except vinyl and CDs, what to collect?
Post by: stackjackson on April 09, 2020, 04:27:28 PM
An impressive reading list you've compiled here, Mr! A great resource. Maybe we should create a "bibliography" section in our Info Database... ??
Title: Re: Except vinyl and CDs, what to collect?
Post by: a8detective on April 11, 2020, 03:06:26 AM
Quote

John Fox:
My Musical World (2009)


     I've had this on my Amazon want-list for quite a while. I wonder if he talks about Sonoton and the reason why he used the aliases Peter Balding and David Bell.
Title: Re: Except vinyl and CDs, what to collect?
Post by: a8detective on April 11, 2020, 03:07:15 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/HXqvlNA.jpg)
I probably have to decontaminate it (heh), but this little gem showed up in the mail a few days back! Of all places, this copy seems to originate from Como, right by the Italian-Swiss border.

     Cool find! I would love to see the insides of that!
Title: Re: Except vinyl and CDs, what to collect?
Post by: Mr on April 19, 2020, 11:48:59 PM
An impressive reading list you've compiled here, Mr! A great resource. Maybe we should create a "bibliography" section in our Info Database... ??
Good idea! I'll see if I can find any more and post up a list.


     I wonder if he talks about Sonoton and the reason why he used the aliases Peter Balding and David Bell.
From the excerpts I've seen it does touch on his Sonoton work quite a bit, all the way back from his initial meeting with Narholz back in 1973.
Unsure if it mentions the aliases, but I've always assumed the origin of both were playfully acknowledging Fox' thinning hair.

I unfortunately don't have a scanner, but I'll see if I can snap some photos of the Vedette catalogue :)


An oddity I just stumbled upon;
Wilfred Anthony Drummond's 2008 book "Black Race in Motion: Anecdotal Experiences and the Road Ahead", of all things, details the author encountering Teddy Leyh and wife Dorothea while they were vacationing in Tobago in 1967. They grew quite close for the remainder of their stay, and the author later writes about his journey to visit them in Saarbrücken in the mid-70's. Huh.
Title: Re: Except vinyl and CDs, what to collect?
Post by: apmnut on May 15, 2020, 03:23:53 PM
https://vintagetheatrecatalogs.blogspot.com/2016/02/1960-major-sound-effects-catalog-1961.html
A 1961 catalog from Major can be found in the above link.