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Title: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: DumpsterVinyl on March 03, 2021, 02:43:14 AM
We started a podcast! 

https://www.soundcloud.com/dumpstervinyl

Apologies if we completely whiffed on sharing accurate information on our first episode. We spent the first episode sharing our story, in all its full detail. 

Our goal in the future is to cover an individual album each episode by covering information about the composer, label, and, if we find any, the record itself (don't be surprised if I rely on some of you for these tidbits, lol).  Followed by listening in full, with reactions and commentary from us (and whatever guests we bring on in the future), followed by a discussion about the record, overall, all from a complete novice's perspective. Will it be good?  We don't know, but we hope it'll be fun. 

This forum has been a massive help so thank you for all that you have done and provided for us to get this going. 
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: stackjackson on March 03, 2021, 02:56:42 AM
Cool. Looking forward to listening to your first show! Congrats on getting this up and running.
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: Retronic on March 03, 2021, 08:58:14 AM
That was really enjoyable. I had a listen getting ready for work.  The best bit for me was you guys describing your first impressions; the descriptions on the back, the non-descript covers etc and the whole mystery of them.  It reminded me of the magic of when it’s new and unknown that you lose when you have real familiarity with something.  It was great to hear the detail of the story too. 

If you do an episode on Ingmans Big Beat it’s worth checking out Death Wish from 1974 which has a scene with Bronson going into a New York bar or diner and a track from Big Beat is heard playing. 
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: Greta on March 03, 2021, 09:30:25 AM
Nice to hear your story directly from your voices guys. Well done.
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: Silverrider85 on March 03, 2021, 09:42:26 AM
Cool, so great to hear the story, nicely done! Glad to hear that new souls are still being bitten by the library music virus (the only thing that is good to be bitten by, really). You guys are in for a treat!
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: Your Pal Doug on March 03, 2021, 12:06:15 PM
I can not wait to hear your podcast. I heard the beginning, I'm originally from Chicago, and can picture the whole finding of the records in my mind.
Those records were so lucky to find you two.
Thanks for sharing your story as well as your music.
How exciting!!

Your pal,

Doug
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: DumpsterVinyl on March 03, 2021, 02:09:49 PM
Thank you for all the kind words everyone. It was so much fun to tell this story and we're excited to make more episodes. Definitely going to raid the forum for information on where these songs popped up whenever we cover an album. We want to provide as much information and knowledge about the music as possible, but obviously we don't know much of anything and you guys know so much. So this forum has been really invaluable in the decision to make the podcast because we feel like there's so much that can be talked about. Thank you for listening and for all the kind words. In the meantime I'll keep ripping what we got, lol.
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: stackjackson on March 03, 2021, 02:33:40 PM
Hey Dumpster, you might enjoy picking up these books for reference:

(1) http://fuel-design.com/publishing/music-library-2016 (http://fuel-design.com/publishing/music-library-2016)

(2) https://www.duttonvocalion.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=VOCBK1802 (https://www.duttonvocalion.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=VOCBK1802)

(3) https://anthology.net/book/david-hollander-unusual-sounds/ (https://anthology.net/book/david-hollander-unusual-sounds/)
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: DumpsterVinyl on March 03, 2021, 07:15:52 PM
Hey Dumpster, you might enjoy picking up these books for reference:

(1) http://fuel-design.com/publishing/music-library-2016 (http://fuel-design.com/publishing/music-library-2016)

(2) https://www.duttonvocalion.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=VOCBK1802 (https://www.duttonvocalion.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=VOCBK1802)

(3) https://anthology.net/book/david-hollander-unusual-sounds/ (https://anthology.net/book/david-hollander-unusual-sounds/)


Ooooohhhhhhh, I want those.
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: niknak on March 03, 2021, 08:02:41 PM
Loved the podcast, so glad you found us here. Will look forward to the next one.
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: DumpsterVinyl on March 03, 2021, 08:46:02 PM
I just submitted it through Stitcher, TuneIn, and Spotify.  iTunes coming soon (I hate iTunes). 
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: roope on March 04, 2021, 06:20:09 AM
Woah, such a fantastic story you have! Great idea to start a blog, the first episode was a fun listen. What a great journey you'll have there!

I don't agree with the "more valuable the better music" though! There's so much great music on the cheapest discs too. Many can be valuable also because one of the tracks has been sampled somewhere famous. Or the album has one killer track. There's still so many sleepers out there waiting to be found.

Thanks again for sharing your story and treasures!
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: DumpsterVinyl on March 04, 2021, 03:18:28 PM
Woah, such a fantastic story you have! Great idea to start a blog, the first episode was a fun listen. What a great journey you'll have there!

I don't agree with the "more valuable the better music" though! There's so much great music on the cheapest discs too. Many can be valuable also because one of the tracks has been sampled somewhere famous. Or the album has one killer track. There's still so many sleepers out there waiting to be found.

Thanks again for sharing your story and treasures!

I agree that there's a lot of great gems on the cheaper albums to be sure, but I guess I should have provided context when I said that. basically what I guess I was trying to say is that whenever we found an album that had a higher dollar value in its resale price, the music on that album tended to be a lot more accessible than some of the more niche cheaper albums. but of course that's not to say the cheaper ones aren't great. I know I've talked about it a lot, but I really loved New Outlook and that thing sells for like 10 bucks or less. In the end it's all subjective, but I was mostly saying that as a way of figuring out which records in our collection were worth listening to first and as we listen to them we realize that the music was just really good on them.

On a side note, I think our next episode is going to be one that we know we can get a lot of information on because there's a lot of information out there about it, but we're going to do the first Electric Banana record!

Any tidbits you all know that isn't already public knowledge
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: Retronic on March 04, 2021, 03:31:11 PM
You’ll have already click these facts- Most famous for its use in Dawn of the Dead but the value comes as it’s The Pretty Things going session. 
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: DumpsterVinyl on March 04, 2021, 03:41:19 PM
Holy crap, I didn't know they were used in Dawn of the Dead!  I thought Goblin did the music for Dawn of the Dead?

*looks up Dawn of the Dead music*

Wow.  I had no idea there was an incidental album.  I'm a massive DOTD fan, I can't believe I didn't know this information.  This makes it so much more amazing to me, lol. 
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: stackjackson on March 04, 2021, 03:45:57 PM
Retro's DOTD thread => https://librarymusicthemes.net/index.php?topic=4381.msg30136#msg30136
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: roope on March 04, 2021, 03:47:02 PM
I really enjoyed the clip from New Outlook! Should check that one asap, it's new to me! :)
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: DumpsterVinyl on March 04, 2021, 03:50:48 PM
Retro's DOTD thread => https://librarymusicthemes.net/index.php?topic=4381.msg30136#msg30136

I can't believe I didn't spot this, lol.  This is incredible.  We could do an entire episode on just Dawn of the Dead!
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: DumpsterVinyl on March 04, 2021, 03:51:52 PM
I really enjoyed the clip from New Outlook! Should check that one asap, it's new to me! :)

I ripped it over in the Astral Sounds megathread!  https://librarymusicthemes.net/index.php?topic=3198.msg47643#msg47643
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: roope on March 04, 2021, 03:53:43 PM
Awesome! I actually didn't have that one (I presumed I did). Thanks!!
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: DumpsterVinyl on March 04, 2021, 03:57:31 PM
No problem.  I love how it, coincidentally enough, has album art mimicking the DOTD art as we sit here talking about it.  lol
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: DumpsterVinyl on March 17, 2021, 02:55:36 AM
Episode 2 about The Electric Banana is live!

https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/87wdh

Would love to get feedback, we tried using a list of factoids to read off of but it feels a little too forced and we lost a bit if the natural banter. Our first record highlight episode so still working out the kinks. 
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: stackjackson on March 17, 2021, 03:55:54 AM
Episode 2 about The Electric Banana is live!

Excellent. Can't wait to hear it.
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: Retronic on March 18, 2021, 04:09:29 PM
I enjoyed that. I like the ’whats on your turntable this week?’ slot.
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: Col Wolfe on March 18, 2021, 05:28:23 PM
Great!

And thank you for sticking them on iTunes podcast platform  :)
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: DumpsterVinyl on May 03, 2021, 01:27:18 AM
Quick update!  We just got done recording our next episode with our first special guest, Nick Bantock, who was one of several key album cover artists for De Wolfe music from the 70's all the way through the 80's and 90's.  He gave us many wonderful stories about the process of creating art for De Wolfe, how it found its way into his later professional work, and we took a trip down memory lane and showed him some of his own artwork. Nick later went on to become a successful author and artist, most notably creating The Griffin and Sabine series of books in the early 90's.

We recorded a zoom call and because there is some visual references I'm working on editing the call to be released in video form as well!  Hoping to get it edited and up by the end of the week and hopefully we'll also get some more episodes in the can!

Just wanted to preview it and give the heads up because we had such a wonderful conversation and wanted to share.  Learn some more about Nick ahead of time if you'd like!

http://www.nickbantock.com/
https://www.instagram.com/nick_bantock_art/
https://www.facebook.com/nickbantock/
https://www.etsy.com/ca/shop/BANTOCKart
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: stackjackson on May 03, 2021, 03:12:44 AM
Quick update!  We just got done recording our next episode with our first special guest, Nick Bantock,

Oh! Very cool. Can't wait. Thanks for the update DV!
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: Retronic on May 03, 2021, 07:35:04 AM
Fantastic- looking forward to that!
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: Col Wolfe on May 04, 2021, 03:55:50 PM
I wonder if Bantock will cite Monty Python graphics as an influence...?

Had a nose at his current style a couple of years ago and not a fan at all but absolutely love where he has chosen to live!
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: kimhill on May 05, 2021, 02:11:18 AM
We just got done recording our next episode with our first special guest, Nick Bantock, who was one of several key album cover artists for De Wolfe…

Great! I always wondered about their process.
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: Mr on May 05, 2021, 09:59:08 AM
Thanks for these, they're really fun :)

I'm loving the fact that by episode #2 you're already getting into the groove of things and using a cue for intro music and transition. Very much looking forward to the Nick Bantock episode, exciting stuff!
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: Col Wolfe on May 05, 2021, 03:58:47 PM
Thanks for these, they're really fun :)

I'm loving the fact that by episode #2 you're already getting into the groove of things and using a cue for intro music and transition. Very much looking forward to the Nick Bantock episode, exciting stuff!

Agree.

Also loving the fact presenters are far from hardened library fans so hearing about these great records from a fresh perspective is much fun.
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: Mr on May 05, 2021, 04:41:44 PM
... I just couldn't help but take your mentions of not finding any info on Studio One as a challenge, so I had a look around to see if I could piece something together for you.

Going by the address, I found quite a lot of mentions of various companies residing here - let's take a look:

A notice in the August 15th, 1970 issue of "Cash Box" announces the opening of the studio in Chicago:
(https://i.imgur.com/9OhQVbs.png)

- It seems your Mad Men quip wasn't too far off the mark!



An earlier ad in the Aug. 3rd, 1970 issue of "Broadcasting" mentions this as the address of not just Studio One, but also the Chicago Broadcast Circle, :

(https://i.imgur.com/YgZtE0U.png)

- who, according to an ad in a later issue of the magazine, were still residing there as of June 1973:

(https://i.imgur.com/juEBuO0.png)


An ad in a Jul. 1972 issue of Billboard list this as the address of the Chicago Radio Syndicate:
(https://i.imgur.com/cdSBFWK.png)


- though they later moved to East Oak:
(https://i.imgur.com/nJavKeL.png)
(Billboard, February 9th, 1974)




Now, you may already have connected the dots here yourselves, but as for the company you mentioned phoning up - let's call them "J-S Audio" for now, as not to attract undue attention
 - seems to be the company of the late, err.. "John Smith", Sr., a well-established vocal coach, advertisement annoucer and co-owner of the River North-based "Audio One":

hxxps://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2006-05-31-0605310150-story.html
(- this is also the person mentioned in the first notice above)


- Now, it doesn't take too much mental gymnastics to note the similarity in name between Studio One and Audio One, and a comment on the digital obituary of Smith, Sr. confirms the connection:
(https://i.imgur.com/ZDBJLVZ.png)

According to their website and various contemporary online sources, "J-S Audio Inc." seems to be headed by his son John Smith, Jr. (who may very well be the person you spoke to), and is according to their website running as a similar business, doing sound mixing, voice-overs, radio productions, etc.



A probably unrelated, but nonetheless fun detail:
a Dec. 1967 notice in "Cash Box" magazine notes E. Chestnut as the address of Bill Traut's "Dunwich Productions", who notably produced Coven's first album, which lists the address inside the gatefold of its original issue - it's the text on the red part, top right:
(https://i.imgur.com/Jc1oDJw.png)
Quote
"Satanic Mass"
(Note: To the best of our knowledge, this is the first Black
Mass to be recorded, either in written words or in audio. It
is as authentic as hundreds of hours of research in every
known source can make it. We do not recommend its use
by anyone who has not thoroughly studied Black Magic
and is aware of the risks and dangers involved. For fur-
ther information and source material, write: Coven, in
care of Dunwich Productions, 25 East Chestnut, Chicago,
Illinois 60611)



It's perhaps not that interesting, but I hope this gives you something to go on :)
Title: Re: Dumpster Vinyl: The Podcast
Post by: stackjackson on May 06, 2021, 03:12:40 AM
Brilliant sleuthing, Mr. A joy to read. Thanks!