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Carlin Archive Series - original sources
« on: April 26, 2018, 08:53:56 AM »
I believe there was a thread about this on the older board, but it's been lost.

Basically, I've been trying to figure out what were the original music libraries and record labels that the Carlin Archive Series drew from.

Here's what I recall:



Gerhard Trede - CBS EZ Cue, Mozart Edition

Nino Nardini - Sam Fox/Synchro Fox

Harry Bluestone - Musi Que , possibly Capitol Hi-Q ?

Harry Lubin - Harrose ? - haven't been able to find a physical release of his Carlin work

Gabriel Pares - ? Now credited as Lee Jacobs (arranger)?

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Re: Carlin Archive Series - original sources
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2018, 12:55:43 AM »
The stuff from Syd Dale, Joe Sherman, Meyer Kupferman, John Cacavas, Robert Mersey/David Morse and Roger Roger also come from Sam Fox.

The Bluestone/Cadkin cues actually come from their older library, C&B, and selected recordings from that library were re-released by Musi-Que for use in home movies.

Oh, and not archive series, but the Phil Green/Don Lusher/Ray Davies/Frank Barber/Alan Roper cues on CPM's "Pop Kitsch Tijuana", "Dreamy Romantic Strings" and "Latin Holiday Romance" come from Photoplay Q.

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Re: Carlin Archive Series - original sources
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2018, 03:07:50 AM »
Did the C&B library exist as a record label around the 50s? Haven’t been able to come across a copy.

Musi-Que doesn’t seem to have been issued until the 70s. Though I have another version of the label with a cursive script logo that I’ve been meaning to upload.

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Re: Carlin Archive Series - original sources
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2018, 04:41:50 AM »
Harry Bluestone's "Blue River Music" was established c. 1952. The material is probably from the 50's/early 60's, yeah.

Gerhard Trede - CBS EZ Cue
That doesn't sound right. I doubt Carlin has the rights to anything from CBS' library.
I think Trede had his own library, from whom CBS probably licensed some cues. I think the same was the case for Mozart Edition. - or through Selected Sound?

Gabriel Pares - ? Now credited as Lee Jacobs (arranger)?
Gabriel Pares = Philippe Parès, who did some work for Sam Fox/Synchro and Southern. "Lee Jacobs" is an alias of an unrelated composer, Nicholas Farries.
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Re: Carlin Archive Series - original sources
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2018, 09:37:55 PM »
Did the C&B library exist as a record label around the 50s? Haven’t been able to come across a copy.

Musi-Que doesn’t seem to have been issued until the 70s. Though I have another version of the label with a cursive script logo that I’ve been meaning to upload.

I've got a gut feeling a LOT of US library material from that period was released on reel-to-reel tape, so that's probably why albums from this label haven't surfaced, although either Carlin or Warner-Tamerlane (who's credited as published for these cues on BMI) probably have them in their archives.

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Re: Carlin Archive Series - original sources
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2018, 09:03:03 AM »
Yeah - as was commented in the past, some were also based in Hollywood, and probably didn't need to release any promotional material on vinyl.

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Re: Carlin Archive Series - original sources
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2018, 09:03:43 PM »
Magnetic tape would have been a relatively new technology in the 50s. Even with Bing Crosby’s help in commercializing the format, I question whether entire library labels would have converted wholesale to reel to reel so soon.

The vinyl LP was unveiled in 1948, but you still have library music being issued on 78s well into the 60s.


Also Gerhard Trede’s 70s and on work appears to have been issued on Selected Sound.

Was his 60s and earlier work only published through Mozart Edition and CBS EZ Cue or are there others? Did Gehard Trede have a publishing company prior to the CD era?

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Re: Carlin Archive Series - original sources
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2018, 11:41:02 PM »
Magnetic tape would have been a relatively new technology in the 50s. Even with Bing Crosby’s help in commercializing the format, I question whether entire library labels would have converted wholesale to reel to reel so soon.
That's a very good point, actually.

The vinyl LP was unveiled in 1948, but you still have library music being issued on 78s well into the 60s.
I think that may have been a bit region-specific. Outside the UK, the only label with 78s I can recall off-hand is NY's Major Records. It was never a format of choice in Italy.
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